2nd Amendment

“A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.”


“The Second Amendment as an Expression of First Principles”

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Thomas M. Cooley“The right to bear arms is general. It may be supposed from the phraseology of this provision that the right to keep and bear arms was only guaranteed to the militia; but this would be an interpretation not warranted by the intent. The militia, as has been explained elsewhere, consists of those persons who, under the laws, are liable to the performance of military duty, and are officered and enrolled for service when called upon…. If the right were limited to those enrolled, the purpose of the guarantee might be defeated altogether by the action or the neglect to act of the government it was meant to hold in check. The meaning of the provision undoubtedly is, that the people, from whom the militia must be taken, shall have the right to keep and bear arms, and they need no permission or regulation of law for the purpose. But this enables the government to have a well regulated militia; for to bear arms implies something more than mere keeping; it implies the learning to handle and use them in a way that makes those who keep them ready for their efficient use; in other words, it implies the right to meet for voluntary discipline in arms, observing in so doing the laws of public order.”
– Thomas M. Cooley, General Principles of Constitutional Law, Third Edition [1898]


People Petition to Confiscate Guns From Tea Party Supporters and Repeal the Second Amendment

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Patrick Henry 2“Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction, and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?”
– Patrick Henry, 3 J. Elliot, Debates in the Several State Conventions 45, 2d ed. Philadelphia, 1836


How to clean your AR 15 – Cheaper Than Dirt!

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Shot Show 2012 RAAC MKA 1919 AR15 Shotgun in 12 gauge.

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Akdal MKA 1919 12 Gauge Shotgun Shooting Update

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  • Trex Truthor

    The biggest problem that democracy lovers have today IMHO, is that “they” have organization, and we don’t.

  • montanaconserv

    Sigh… I’d like to try out that MKA 1919 12 Gauge!

  • http://www.worldotonto.com/ AAABTonto

    New videos up here today, 7/27/2013. Enjoy ;-D ))))

  • atomiktiger

    This is my kind of place with my kind of people.

    Thanks to @The_Right_Fight:disqus for the heads up on this page. Kudos to all you freedom fighters out there. Education defeats propaganda, so keep up the fight! I’m one of the schemers with The Right Fight against the Gun Ban Clan. Glad to find friendly turf. Cheers!

    • http://www.worldotonto.com/ AAABTonto

      Welcome to wOt 😀
      Most everyone usually hangs out at the Soap Box, but this page is a recent addition, thank you for the kudos 😀

    • https://twitter.com/1776_Freedom_Fi 1776 Freedom Fighter

      Hi there AtomikTiger, and welcome to Tonto’s site! I see he just extended greetings as well, and yes, The Soap Box captures the lion’s share of the traffic here.

      This new thread here has quickly generated some buzz and excitement. I had meant to return sooner, but was distracted due to news of the Zimmerman verdict (thank God!)

      Even though The Right Fight and I have just known each other for a few days, I’m **very** impressed with his large following of patriots.

      AtomikTiger, I offer this image in your honor; again, welcome to worldOtonto! :-)
      Cc to @The_Right_Fight:disqus

  • poljunkie♪

    Turn it up……

    God and Guns (Keep us strong)
    “…That’s what this Country was founded on….”

    • https://twitter.com/1776_Freedom_Fi 1776 Freedom Fighter

      Hi Pol, it was a busy day over at MOTUS. I hope to add to this thread, and still have a bit to add over there!

  • http://www.worldotonto.com/ AAABTonto

    Wow, guess this turned out to be a popular idea, welcome to all 😀

    • https://twitter.com/1776_Freedom_Fi 1776 Freedom Fighter

      Hey Tonto, I just read your latest post on The Soap Box, so I must deliver this image!

  • https://twitter.com/1776_Freedom_Fi 1776 Freedom Fighter

    OK Tonto and Friends, the time is at hand for me to disappear for a bit, have dinner, and view a DVR movie with my spouse.

    Back in a couple hours or so, give or take. In the meantime, I’m compelled to add this image for your viewing pleasure! :-)

  • The Right Fight

    I love the quote from Thomas Cooley on the Second Amendment … and repeat it in my comment so that others who follow me on DISQUS might see it and read it. Thanks for posting it.

    “The right to bear arms is general. It may be supposed from the phraseology of this provision that the right to keep and bear arms was only guaranteed to the militia; but this would be an interpretation not warranted by the intent. The militia, as has been explained elsewhere, consists of those persons who, under the laws, are liable to the performance of military duty, and are officered and enrolled for service when called upon…. If the right were limited to those enrolled, the purpose of the guarantee might be defeated altogether by the action or the neglect to act of the government it was meant to hold in check. The meaning of the provision undoubtedly is, that the people, from whom the militia must be taken, shall have the right to keep and bear arms, and they need no permission or regulation of law for the purpose. But this enables the government to have a well regulated militia; for to bear arms implies something more than mere keeping; it implies the learning to handle and use them in a way that makes those who keep them ready for their efficient use; in other words, it implies the right to meet for voluntary discipline in arms, observing in so doing the laws of public order.”

    – Thomas M. Cooley, General Principles of Constitutional Law, Third Edition [1898]

    • https://twitter.com/1776_Freedom_Fi 1776 Freedom Fighter

      Hi there, Right Fight, welcome to Tonto’s site!
      You and I just started following each other via Disqus, so it’s a pleasure to meet you.

      You have more than 2 dozen followers, and we **both** like to speak with those who follow us on their Dashboards. My audience is almost never just one thread, since I know others outside this forum will see me. I’m following 95 people, and you’re following 228; wow! You understand a crowded Dashboard better than I! 😉

      Happy to see you here, patriot; be well . . .
      Best Regards,
      Freedom

      • The Right Fight

        I look at DISCUS as a social network that makes us speak in public. Maybe some folks don’t want us to meet privately and talk about things. We might come up with some “dangerous” schemes to undermine “progress” and upset the apple cart (full of apples flow in last night from Chile, btw).

        So some of us communicate on Facebook … to scheme in private against the Gun Ban Clan. We share info on resources and some minor points hidden in documents (like the 7th Circuit rejecting Hemenway’s stuff in their Moore v Madigan decision), and generally conspire to fight for truth, justice, and the (old school) American way.

        I came out of AZ and remember the Tombstone story very well … Wyatt Earp stopped along the way to the OK Corral, picking up some allies and strengthening his position before the fight. I reckon there’s a lesson in that.

        Thanks for the warm welcome. It’s nice to find a friendly place. I’ll tell my friends. :)

        • https://twitter.com/1776_Freedom_Fi 1776 Freedom Fighter

          We’re off to a lovely start already, Right Fight!

          I offer this image for you, since it has a vibe of an honorable patriot who may be located in Kansas, or somewhere in the Heartland! 😉

          • https://twitter.com/Webnetcity webnetcity

            Love this pic freedom…
            I have always been of the mind that an armed man is a citizen
            and an unarmed man is a subject

          • https://twitter.com/1776_Freedom_Fi 1776 Freedom Fighter

            Hey Web, you’ve always been gifted at evoking symbolism, touching our hearts.

            I wish I could write like you, but for now, I’ll settle for adding this image in your honor! :-)

          • https://twitter.com/Webnetcity webnetcity

            Another great pic freedom….A picture that is truly worth a thousand words…
            TWO THUMBS UP!!!

          • https://twitter.com/1776_Freedom_Fi 1776 Freedom Fighter

            ★ ☺ ★

    • https://twitter.com/1776_Freedom_Fi 1776 Freedom Fighter

      Hey Right Fight, you’ll soon see I prefer posting images more than text. Sort of old-fashioned, like Old Glory, in the sense of a Picture is Worth 1,000 Words.
      You have now inspired this image! :-)

      PS – you found a perfect place to start here at Tonto’s site, but The Soap Box is a busier thread where there’s a good flow of new action. I’ll let my buddies know we have a new patriot here!

      • http://www.kimberamerica.com/1911/custom-ii/custom-tle-ii Kimber TLE

        You of course assume everyone can see the picture. For those who can’t, the picture isn’t worth a single word.

        • https://twitter.com/1776_Freedom_Fi 1776 Freedom Fighter

          Well said, Kimber; assumptions can *always* be a dangerous thing.

          Your Disqus history shows you to be very savvy and well-versed on the 2nd Amendment, and your avatar perfectly captures the **crux** of today’s debate! Thank you for adding to the dialog here . . .

          After sending over 1,000 images out of over 3,000 posts on Disqus, I’ve heard of maybe 1% (or less) of them as not viewable.

          Would you be on a smartphone, or an older laptop or . . . ?

          I’d sincerely like to help, if I can. One of my buddies is soon waking up in Australia, and he’s a true Power User with Disqus problems.

          • http://www.kimberamerica.com/1911/custom-ii/custom-tle-ii Kimber TLE

            0) Not me. I see your pics just fine.

            1) If your viewer is blind, they see not ye pic!

            2) 1-out-of-10 men have colorblindness. (FYI: Red-green colorblindness (which makes-up 90% of all people who are colorblind) is a recessive gene trait, causing it to be more prominent in males than females.) If they’re colorblind, your pics aren’t near as pretty as you think they are!

            3) Speaking of mobile devices – your pics use-up more bandwidth than text. You’re raising their data rates! :)

            4) And thank you for caring enough to at least ask what the problem might be! It shows you care! Rare among those who frequent forums.

          • poljunkie♪

            Welcome.

            ’76 Free is a goodwill steward on this site.

          • poljunkie♪

            You misunderstand…

            I WAS agreeing with your #4 point to ’76 Freedom earlier.

            You are right in the ’76 Freedom goes the extra mile to greet and follow up almost anyone new to the site. :-) :-)

        • poljunkie♪

          Nice moniker.

      • The Right Fight

        Thank you kindly. There are never too many patriots in the crowd. :)

        • poljunkie♪

          YGTR.

          Welcome aboard!

          • https://twitter.com/1776_Freedom_Fi 1776 Freedom Fighter

            Hey ♫ Pol ♫, this grim list was updated after the tragic event in 2011.

            Since your beautiful Grand Canyon state was put under a national glare, I offer this image for you. Some food for thought . . .

          • poljunkie♪

            Pretty amazing, isn’t it?

          • The Right Fight

            Jared was a Democrat wannabe. But his mental illness trumped even his political handicap.

            His math class at Pima Community College was so scared of him that the Campus Police guarded the classroom after he got kicked out of school.

            But that list would be much more impressive if it was attached to a web page that contained all the photos of documents confirming those claims. That would be really handy. 😉

          • https://twitter.com/1776_Freedom_Fi 1776 Freedom Fighter

            Fully agree, Right Fight; it **would** be useful to see a link to prove all of these claims. I suppose we can open it up for debate right here! 😉

          • The Right Fight

            @poljunkie:disqus is from AZ?

            I lived in Tucson for 17 years … until 2009.

          • poljunkie♪

            San Fran native but yes living in AZ for the last 20 years!

            :-)

          • The Right Fight

            Haha … you’re not the first to leave CA for AZ, and it’s almost guaranteed that you won’t be the last.

          • poljunkie♪

            I loved San Fran growing up. MY City by the bay!
            I lived near the Zoo so all day and most of the night, I could hear the lions roaring. I could hear the FOG HORNS, and the cold cool feel of the FOG hitting your skin is something you don’t forget.
            I loved the OCEAN, the MOM and POP stores, the late bake SOURDOUGH bread, the neighborhoods. So much to do, to take in..to learn from, and experience.
            As a teenager, the availability of music was endless. Man I lived for that.
            As I grew up, and matured , got married, had a child, we decided that our values just didn’t match Cali any more…so we headed for sunny skies.

            (Journey –LIghts featuring Steve Perry circa ’78
            not the best sound quality…but good)

            This song actually represented HOW I felt about San Fran…until I was probably 28, 29….

          • The Right Fight

            I grew up in San Diego … I know exactly what you mean.

          • poljunkie♪

            It’s funny how much I loved San Fran…I haven’t been back there in close to 15 years.

            I was in Cali a handful of years ago—- in the wine country for a concert.

          • Trex Truthor

            Where I live (Northeast) its so liberal that the Republican politicians drive blue cars as a means of showing their true colors. There hasn’t been an elected Democrat here in the 42-years I’ve been a resident. Our property taxes just got jacked up 20% to pay for “budget shortfalls”. The cops all make at least $100k. But the taxes weren’t increased for everyone in the Township. Those living in the extremist liberal end of town, had no increase at all. They had a “gun surrender” at the Township Hall a year or so, ago. Ahhh, Democracy………..

          • http://www.opensuse.org/en/ Mic van het meer Weede

            Texas is the place to be, imho

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